manga... nhạy cảm

[Cốm]

Vào http://accvietnam.vn hoặc http://vnsharing.net rồi tìm chỗ phân loại để biết thêm chi tiết ạ

ô, hóa ra u là mem ACC à ?
Thế u nghĩ là những thông tin được ACC hay VNsharing dịch kiếm được ở đâu? Không phải từ trên mạng thì từ thư viện quốc gia hử ? Cái từ điển toàn thư wiki đúng là từ điển mở thật, nhưng độ tin cậy của nó khá cao. Thế u nghĩ cái mangaupdates là luôn đúng 100% sao (đọc phần thông tin về ecchi trong VNsharing thấy lấy nguồn từ đây)? Nó cũng là do một người nào đó viết ra thôi mà . Mà những cái gì đã dính đến sex thì đều xếp vào H-manga cả? Ecchi mà được xếp riêng một thể loại ngang bằng với shounen sao? Nực cười!

[doom]

xét theo Jap, Ecchi = H != Hentai......
xét theo Eng, Ecchi != H = Hentai......

và cái ecchi nó là 1 thể loại riêng từ đời nào rồi....

mà cái Wikipedia Jap nó giải thix cái H với Ecchi chính xác hơn... (well, thats if you can read it, lol..)
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%...83%83%E3%83%81
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%...82%BF%E3%82%A4

BTW, muốn kiếm Hentai mà hay thì kiếm mấy cái H-Game nổi tiếng mà chơi, kiểu Kanon, Air, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, Fate/Stay Night, ect ect.....

BTW, cái chữ H = Hentai là kiểu xài của dân Eng, ko phải Jap, Jap H = Ecchi, + Hentai means Weirdo, not perv, đó là cách xài của dân Eng.... (and we know that Japanese's English are quite terrible....)

to be correct..
ecchi = posing girls wit hot bodies that can be nude, no sex tho

hentai = posing girls wit hot bodies that ARE nude and DO HAVE SEX

end of story

or read this (too lazy to translate....)

The actual original dictionary definition for "hentai" is "someone who acts strangely." Technically, by the old terminology, oh let's say...someone who wore hats on their feet and shoes on their head would be coined as "being a hentai."

Flash foward to the 1960s. The world was going through a counterculture revolution - anti-war, sexual openness, etc. Japan was no exception. Sex, started becoming more open, as the young postwar generation began to rebel against the older prewar generation. By means of media and slang term, someone started using "ecchi" as a replacement for sex. The actual Japanese word for "sexual intercourse" is "seikoui." But then again, who the heck is going to use "Let's have sexual intercourse" when a shorter, blunter version "Let's f**k" is available? Same thing in Japan, rather than saying "Anata to seikoui shitai" (I want to have sexual intercourse with you), a shorter, blunter saying "Ecchi shiyouze" (Let's f**k) is available. By now, I take it that most people here knows that the word "ecchi" stems from Japanese pronounciation for the English letter "H" - the first letter in the romanized word for "hentai."

Due to this use of "ecchi/hentai" as a replacement for "sex" in the 1960s, the word stuck into the Japanese that "ecchi" (or in Japanese usage, we just write the English alphabet "H" for sex) meant sex (or at least sexual content).

By 1980s and early 1990s, we started seeing porno anime and porno games in Japan. In Japan, these were referred to simply as "H-anime" (ecchi-anime) and "H-games" (ecchi-games). For some reason, in the overseas, you guys understood that "ecchi" (H) meant the first letter for the word "hentai," so you began to refer to these animes and games as "hentai anime" and "hentai games." (While in Japan, we never used those...we just used the letter "H" only). And as these games became more and more hardcore with rape, bondage, and tentacles, you guys began to refer to these pictures as being "hentai," whereas in Japan, we just referred to them as being "H-scenes" (ecchi-scenes).

But somewhere around the mid 1990s, (some say it began with Leaf's "Shizuku" and "Kizuato," others point a little later to "To Heart") these games gradually began to distance itself from hardcore pornography to story-centric love-simulation games (many point to the immense success of Konami's "Tokimeki Memorial" that started this whole love-sim phenomena). When one company made a huge success in story-based games, many other companies followed.

Suddenly, these games weren't just about sex anymore. They actually began to put real effort into actually great stories. And as more and more of these games began to hit the shelves, more and more of us began to ponder: these aren't just "ecchi games" (sex-only games), these are rather "games with actually great stories that just happen to have sex scenes in them."

Hence, a new terminology began to appear (by word of mouth, by mass media, etc.) and gradually the terminology "H-anime/H-games" (ecchi-anime/ecchi-games) began to disappear in replacement of "ero-anime/ero-games." For some reason, at least in Japanese minds, the English word "erotic" is less objective than the blunt word "sex." So, rather than the blunt "just sex games" (sex = "ecchi") we began to use the more toned down version of "games with erotic scenes in them (erotic = shortened to "ero" in Japanese)."

By the late 1990s, the word "hentai/ecchi" was dead. It still is used for the action verb "let's f**k" (ecchi shiyouze) in everyday language, but the usage of the word "hentai/ecchi" as an adjective had disappeared. It has been replaced by the term "ero."

So, from now on, the word "hentai anime," "hentai games," "hentai pictures," and "hentai scenes" are all words that no one in Japan uses anymore. Start using the word "ero-anime," "ero-games," "ero-pictures," and "ero-scenes (actually the actual word in Japanese for "ero-pictures" is "ero-gazou," but that's going too extreme).

[doom]

phải cắt ra post làm 2 bài, lol...
another one..
by Lisa Hayes - HF Commander...

Anime: Glossary of Terms
A small compilation of definitions that should help you understand the lingo's of the Anime world.

Baka
The Japanese word for "idiot" or "fool".

Bishounen "beautiful young man" / Bishoujo "beautiful girl"
This term is very rarely used outside of anime. "bishounen" is usually only applied to very feminine, swishy male anime characters.

Chibi
"chibi" literally means "midget" and refers to anything small and cute.In anime, "chibi" refers to the super-deformed style of drawing. Characters with huge heads and itty bitty little bodies.

Cosplay
Short for "costume play". Dressing up as your favorite characters.

CG
Computer Graphics, or refering to anything in anime that is drawn digitally with 3D models.

Dojinshi
Literal meaning: same things, different people.
Fan produced itmes from similar storylines, especially fan drawn manga. Dojinshi is pretty much legal in Japan as it shows the makers of official manga how popular their work is. Fan works range from hand-made photocopies stapled together into booklets to the professionally bound works.

Ecchi
"is the Japanese pronunciation of the English letter "H", which in turn stands for "hentai". It means anything perverted, overly sexual, etc. Always in a negative context.

Fanfic
A story written by fans that involves characters from an existing anime series. Usually written in installments and published on the internet, the content ranges from continuations of the official story to improbable situations to erotica.

Fan Service
Anything used to please the audience that has nothing to do with the show. In anime, this is a "code word" for things like panty shots, close up of busts, etc. usually when the audience is predominately male.

Fansub
Fan-subtitled. The only way to find a translation of many less popular titles as well as surprising ones is through fansubbing. Generally, fansubbed items are distributed by copying freely, so poor quality copies are common. It is considered unethical and illegal to fansub a show which is being commercially translated.

Hentai
Refers to anything perverted, erotic, or sexual, always in a negative context. Words both as an adjective and a noun. Something can be described as "hentai," and you can also simply call someone a "hentai."

Hime "Princess"
This is a name suffix, added to the ends of names. (Ex: Mononokehime = Princess Mononoke). If used alone as a noun, not attached to a name, the term is usually "himesama" or "ohimesama."

Henshin
To transform.
This term generally refers to animes or manga that has characters transforming into their magical alter ego. (Ex. Sailormoon)

J-pop
Japanese popular music.

Japanimation
A term used to refer to Japanese animation.

Kawaii "cute"
Literally, "kawaii" means defenseless/pathetic, but these days refers to anything dripping of cuteness. Also used for "cute" as in "cute girl/boy.". It is common for American anime fans to overuse this word. If you are male, please realize that this makes you sound comically swishy.

Kodomo
Literally means child. In the anime world, this term refers to anime or manga that is specifically created with children under the age of 10 in mind. Some popular kodomo anime titles are Doraemon and Anpanman.

Lemon
mature content
This is not a Japanese term. It is a word invented by American anime fans to refer to anime and fan fiction with sexual content.

Lolita
A term used for hentai involving children. Lolita comes from the book Lolita in which a forty some year old man falls in love with a fourteen year old girl. Lolita hentai is popular among men in Japan.

Lime
Usually refers to fanfic that hints that a couple had sex.

Manga
Japanese comics
As of 1998, over 54% of all bound printed matter published in Japan was manga, with nearly 2.8 billion volumes printed annually. Manga is much more popular than anime in Japan. Almost all anime starts as manga, gains a following, and is then converted to anime. Note that "manga" is printed, "anime" is animated. The two terms cannot be interchanged.

Mecha
Big robots in anime.
This is not a Japanese term. It was invented originally by American anime fans to describe the big robots found in anime. Ironically, the term has caught on in Japan, and now some anime actually uses the term as well.

Megami-sama
A goddess. "megami" literally means "female god." "sama" is an honorary suffix usually attached to the end.

Manga-ka
A term used for a manga artist. Manga-ka is a difficult and much desired job in Japan unlike comic artists.

OAV
Stands for original animation video. Not part of a tv series, but not a movie.

Otaku "obsessive fan"
This is a dangerous word. It has been adopted by American anime fans to mean any sort of anime/manga fan. Some even use it with pride. Note that in Japan, "otaku" is a very very harsh insult. It is reserved only for people who never leave their houses (which is what otaku literally means), because they are too frightened of people. No hygeine, no people skills, no motivation, and usually very perverted and disgusting. Use with great care outside of America.

OST
Original SoundTrack - Soundtrack albums for the music in anime series.

OVA
A long, made for TV version of an anime series, usually 1-2 hours long. Occasionally seen on television, but usually released straight to video or DVD.

Omake
This term means "extra" in Japanese. In anime terms it usually refers to the silly stories, author notes, and alternative scenes found at the end of an anime series or manga.

Ronin
The Japanese term for a samurai without a master. Basically, they wandered around looking for work as a hired sword, and have a sort of cool, "lone gunslinger" image. Can also be used to describe students taking exams to a university. (ex. Keitaro from Love hina, Godai from Maison Ikkoku)

Regional Codes
A general DVD term, Regional Codes can be used to prevent the playback of certain discs depending on the geographical area it is played in. These codes were placed after various studios and home video companies supported these codes as a required part of current DVD standards. In doing so, they hoped to better control how DVD titles were exported to other countries. Regional codes can usually be found on the back of DVD packages inside the Regional Coding globe logo with the region number on it. In some cases, the Regional Code is spelled out.

The following is the regional breakdown.

Region 1 (R1) - The United States, United States territories, and Canada
Region 2 (R2) - Europe, Japan, the Middle East, Egypt, South Africa, and Greenland
Region 3 (R3) - Taiwan, Korea, the Philippines, Indonesia, and Hong Kong
Region 4 (R4) - Mexico, South America, Central America, Australia, New Zealand, Pacific Islands, and the Caribbean
Region 5 (R5) - Russia, Eastern Europe, India, most of Africa, North Korea, and Mongolia
Region 6 (R6) - China

Raw
n the anime world, "raw" is the common term used for unsubbed anime.

Seiyuu
The Japanese voice actors/actresses in anime. This may include singers.

Shounen-ai
Boy love.
This term refers to anime or manga that deals with relationships between two male characters. It is generally thought of as being less explicit than yaoi. Examples may include Gravitation or Yami no Matsuei.

Yaoi
Any content that has boy-boy situations. Homosexual content.

Yuri
Literal meaning: lily.
In the anime world, this term is the equivalent of yaoi but for girls. In other words, it refers to anime/manga with girl-girl situations.

Categorization:

Josei
(n.) young woman.
Demographic indicator for anime and manga aimed at young women. One of the rarest forms of anime, a large proportion of josei anime/manga appears to fall under the category of "yaoi".

Shoujo
(n.) daughter; young lady; virgin; maiden; little girl.
Demographic indicator for anime and manga aimed at girls. However, among Western fans, it is often misinterpreted to mean "an anime with the stylistic qualities usually associated with shoujo".

Shounen
(n.) boys; juveniles.
Demographic indicator for anime and manga aimed at boys. The most obvious and common example of shounen is "fighting" anime, where extremely powerful warriors duke it out amongst each other with various forms of martial arts and superpowers.

Seinen
(n.) youth; young man.
Relatively uncommon in the west due to the emphasis on the male teen market, "seinen" is a demographic indicator for anime and manga aimed at a young adult male (college-aged) audience. They are intended for a more mature audience.

[worldmaker]

Btw.Ecchi vốn có nghĩa là sexy .Nghĩa chung duy nhất của ecchi và hentai là Pervert,và cái này dùng chỉ dùng cho người thôi
Lời nói của cậu mới nực cười,lol ,và nhất là cái câu này

Mà những cái gì đã dính đến sex thì đều xếp vào H-manga cả

Thức nhất,ngay điều được khẳng định trong câu này đã sai rồi.Thứ 2,không phải bộ ecchi nào cũng liên quan đến cái nghĩa mà cậu đã dùng cho từ "sex" đâu
@doom:dài quá ,mà quái,sao nó định nghĩa OVA với OAV khác hẳn nhau kìa

BTW, muốn kiếm Hentai mà hay thì kiếm mấy cái H-Game nổi tiếng mà chơi, kiểu Kanon, Air, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, Fate/Stay Night, ect ect

Mấy cái novel này H-scence thêm vào chỉ để câu khách thôi,cái đáng nói là cốt truyện của nó
@kishi:tớ cũng rất muốn nhịn nhưng mà thế là quá đủ rồi,nguyên văn câu pos khuyên tớ nói với cậu là thế này "cái loại không hiểu truyện như mày tư cách gì ngồi bàn luận H và ecchi với tao" và cũng là điều mà tớ muốn nói

[Cốm]

@kishi:tớ cũng rất muốn nhịn nhưng mà thế là quá đủ rồi,nguyên văn câu pos khuyên tớ nói với cậu là thế này "cái loại không hiểu truyện như mày tư cách gì ngồi bàn luận H và ecchi với tao" và cũng là điều mà tớ muốn nói

ôi, thế là tớ làm cho bạn worldmaker ko nhịn được nữa rồi à? Ko nhịn được thì cứ ra nhà nhỏ mà xả nhá, đừng để trong bụng nặng bụng lắm :gem8:.
Ừ, thì thôi, theo tầm hiểu biết sâu rộng của bạn thì tớ sai rồi, ôi thật là xấu hổ quá, đọc truyện mà ko biết ecchi ko xếp vào h manga, ôi thật là loại ko ra gì, ko đáng được ngồi bàn chuyện với bạn và cái bạn pos bên TĐ . Ý, mà tớ có ý định ngồi bàn chuyện H và ecchi với bạn bao giờ đâu nhỉ, chẳng qua là bạn có ý kiến thắc mắc nên tớ tiếp lời thôi mà .
Mà thôi, bạn đã có nhời chửi thẳng vào mặt tớ thế thì tớ cũng xin rút nhẹ cho êm, kẻo lại làm bạn bị bệnh vì nhịn nhiều quá thì tớ là tớ áy náy lắm lắm :big_smile.

[worldmaker]

Tớ cũng chả cần xả đâu,vì tớ chả còn gì để mà xả,một câu đấy là quá đủ rồi
Nhận ra sự thật trình độ còi cọc thế là tốt,tớ cũng chả muốn phải giáo huấn bạn hàng ngày đâu
Btw,bạn cũng chỉ rep lại được câu nói cuối cùng của tớ,chứ đoạn bên trên và bài của doom thì chịu chết,mà thôi bạn cũng chả cần rút đâu,từ nay nếu bạn không truyền bá mấy mớ kiến thức sai lầm kia thì tớ cũng chẳng cần vào làm gì cả

[JILchan]

oạch, xem xong cái này mới biết mình còn ngây thơ thật. Câu trả lời là NO NO và NO.
Chỉ có thỉnh thoảng đọc s-a (chậc, quá trong sáng) <<hơi hơi thích òi
Mem JPN nhà mình cũng dã man wua'

[Cốm]

Môi trường của JPN rất trong sạch và các mem rất trong sáng mà . Mem ở đây cũng rất lịch sự và thân thiện nữa .

[tinnygy]

Hờ hờ, bác Kishi à, mún xả thì xả đại đê, gì chứ sao mà một người lịch sự vốn đang nói chuyện đàng hoàng sao có thể xả ra một câu với lời lẽ và ngôn từ kiểu đó chứ??? "Tao" và "Mày" là hai danh xưng mà Tin ghét nhất khi lên diễn đàn, sao có thể có người ko biết cả sự lịch sự tối thiểu đó nhỉ??? Có gì thì ngồi lại nói chầm chậm, nói tới khi nào thông thì thôi.

(nói nhỏ: Ủa? Tớ tưởng chữ Ecchi có nghĩa là make love cơ chứ ><)

[Cốm]

ss Tinn à, lâu lắm mới gặp được một bạn nào như thế ^^. Vả lại, mình mà xả ra đây thì thật là bẩn JPN lắm lắm . Theo em thì ko nên nói làm gì, bạn ý cho là bạn ý đúng thì cứ để bạn ý nghĩ thế đi, có ảnh hưởng đến ai đâu .